The Expanse’s Dominique Tipper Explains How She Pertains to Naomi’s Struggles to Bridge A number of Identities

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Whereas The Expanse has all the time taken on points that carry deep social and political relevance, the fourth season — with its pointed exploration of colonialism, immigration, and an important political election — paralleled present occasions extra instantly than ever. When stars Steven Strait and Dominique Tipper rewatched a few of The Expanse‘s most memorable scenes as a part of TV Information’s 100 Best Shows ranking, the actors have been struck particularly by how the present’s storylines really feel as resonant now as after they first aired, if no more so — significantly when it got here to the advanced journey of Tipper’s character, Naomi Nagata, a Belter, former member of the OPA, and beloved member of the anti-tribalist Rocinante household.

“I feel typically once we speak about illustration we overlook concerning the flawedness of people,” Tipper stated. “The truth that we do not simply need to see a powerful Black lady trope. It is like, no, we need to see a Black lady who’s ripped from her household and is navigating that and has privilege and that makes fallacious choices and does the suitable factor and you are still in love together with her on the finish of it. As a result of I feel too typically once we attempt to diversify in Hollywood or on exhibits, we try to painting essentially the most healthful model of that or essentially the most palatable model of it, and that is the place you run into issues.”

The Expanse has seen Naomi torn time and time once more between her id as a Belter and as a member of the Roci crew. And within the fourth season, the Belters discover their very existence threatened by the lots of of probably liveable planets on the opposite aspect of the Ring Gate. With all these attainable new houses that present free air and sources, the Belter colonists on Ilus are removed from the one individuals who wish to go away the Belt behind and take a look at their hand at residing down a gravity properly. This results in the OPA changing into deeply fractured, as tensions rise between those that see the brand new planets as a chance to enhance their station and those that see them as a demise sentence to the Belter individuals as we all know them. Even shut mates like Naomi and Drummer (Cara Gee) discover themselves on reverse sides of this problem after they talk about the Ilus refugees within the Season four premiere, with Naomi advocating for particular person alternative and Drummer fiercely championing the beforehand established picture of what Belter sovereignty ought to appear like.

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However this disagreement with Drummer would not dissuade Naomi from going to Ilus to mediate on behalf of the U.N., and — in a break from the books the Amazon collection is predicated on — she even chooses to undergo the grueling course of mandatory to affix Holden (Strait) on the bottom. Whereas watching the tender scene the place Naomi takes her first steps in environment, Strait and Tipper famous how this second encompasses a lot extra than simply what these new prospects imply for Naomi as a person or for her and Holden’s future as a pair. It additionally faucets into the hopes and struggles many oppressed individuals face each day.

“It very a lot speaks to the migrant scenario, as properly. I do not need to name it a disaster; I feel it is solely a disaster as a result of it has been made one. However this hope that clearly individuals have, and why they go to new lands new locations,” Tipper stated. “Regardless that me and Holden, particularly Naomi as a Belter is sort of privileged, there’s nonetheless that symbolism of hope of a brand new land that’s away from the oppressions of Earth and the instruments of the oppression that they’ve.”

“It’s it’s such an intimate second between these two,” Strait added. “And it additionally speaks to the truth that all of those thousand or so gates have opened up and all of this potential is on the market, and the Belters as soon as once more, for many of them, cannot reap the benefits of it.”

“And simply the parallels even to my very own lifetime of like, what makes you the proper of Black particular person?” stated Tipper. “Even while you take a look at the Belter aspect, Naomi is all the time on this place — which additionally speaks to my very own factor of being combined race — of like, are you for the Belt? Whose aspect are you on while you’re a part of each worlds and navigating that? … It is a actually stunning factor I’ve bought to embody with out it instantly being about me being a mixed-race Black lady.”

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These questions of what it means to be “for the Belt” and to combat for Belter sovereignty tackle an added urgency with the introduction of Marco Inaros (Keon Alexander), Naomi’s ex and a radical Belter who seeks to forestall Belters from changing into the forgotten individuals of the long run, by any means mandatory. Whereas Marco is seen by some because the altruistic savior of the Belt, whose violent actions are justifiable responses to generations of violent oppression by the inners, to others he is solely a power-hungry narcissist, who seeks to regulate the world the way in which he as soon as managed Naomi earlier than she escaped their abusive relationship. And the present would not encourage viewers to land on one aspect or the opposite, however slightly to look at Marco’s intentions and actions from all angles.

“I feel lots of people all the time need to paint him because the unhealthy man, however while you truly take a look at the way in which the Belters are oppressed and what he’s doing to alleviate that oppression, you are like, ‘Nicely, if I used to be a Belter, I do not know. Possibly I might need somebody preventing for me like that,'” stated Tipper, noting the parallels between the horizontal hostilities within the present and ones she sees in her personal life. “It is all the time a query for me being a mixed-race Black lady throughout the Black group: How will we alleviate our personal oppression? Is it with radical measures? Is it with democratic measures? And I feel what we get to see play out going into Season 5 is the investigation of that and the place all the opposite Belters aspect with that and the way they every need to … go about it.”

The seemingly irreconcilable battle between Marco’s political radicalism and the inners, as properly between Marco and the opposite factions of the Belt, involves a head within the Season four finale when Marco and Filip (Jasai Chase Owens), his son with Naomi, execute Klaes Ashford (David Strathairn) earlier than sending asteroids crashing into Earth, inflicting unheard-of devastation. Within the heartbreaking scene, Marco diminishes Ashford’s personal legacy as a Belter pirate and later OPA loyalist who all the time fought for what he thought was finest for his individuals. However in a few of his closing phrases to Ashford earlier than floating him, Marco notes the methods by which Ashford’s radicalism has all the time been out of step with Belters’ true potential.

“There is a actually poignant line [Marco] says there, the place he says, ‘Even our goals are too small,'” Tipper defined. “Quite a lot of oppressed individuals can’t think about a system outdoors of the one which they’re oppressed by. Say what you’ll about Marco, this ‘one man’s terrorist is one other man’s hero’ — there’s a number of that that performs out with him.”

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Everybody in The Expanse – together with Marco — has a sound motive for doing what they do, and the present takes cautious pains to current all of the viewpoints pretty, which does not imply the collection excuses anybody’s actions. Somewhat, it is about discovering the humanity in each character, and trusting the viewers to navigate this world the place, very similar to our personal, few issues are ever black or white.

“Regardless of who it’s and the place they’re coming from, everybody looks like they’re doing the suitable factor and there is a level on each aspect,” Strait stated. “It is such a power of the writing that there is no sort of monolith by way of being proper about any of this. It simply is determined by the place you are trying from.”

“Everybody’s flawed, everybody’s grey, and also you bounce in between who you want and who you do not like on a regular basis, and whose values you tackle and do not,” stated Tipper. “And I simply love that concerning the present. It is one in every of my favourite issues as a result of I do not see many exhibits having the ability to navigate that properly.”

For extra of Tipper and Strait’s ideas on The Expanse‘s most memorable scenes, watch the complete video above.

The Expanse is on the market to stream on Amazon Prime Video.