It was an hour that had followers speaking when no less than three {couples} had been damaged up or in limbo on Grey’s Anatomy Season 16 Episode 14.
We’ve quite a bit to debate and a full of life group of opinionated panelists, so seize a snack!
Be a part of TV Fanatic Meaghen Frey and Gray’s Fanatics Berea Orange, Becs, and LC as they talk about the hour.
Alex refuses to answer Jo and Mer, and Jo is beginning to suppose he deserted her. The place do you suppose that is headed?
Berea: After Alex’s historical past with Izzie, Ava, and his mother, I don’t see him simply abandoning Jo and Meredith out of nowhere.
The one cheap rationalization that wouldn’t appear too out-of-character can be him beginning to exhibit schizophrenia like his mother and brother.That is actually the one manner I see him being written off (with out Jo) that will be considerably satisfying.
Becs: I don’t know the place this could possibly be headed. I’ve tried to theorize about it, however nothing is sensible, or it is out of character for Alex. There’s something massive taking place, however I do not foresee him leaving Jo.
It could possibly be that his mother is admittedly sick, and he is staying along with her long run and does not know tips on how to inform Jo. However, even that appears out of character. I’m to see the place that is headed, and I hope it offers acceptable closure to his character.
LC: Cue KeKe Palmer: “I hate to say it, I hope I do not sound ridiculous, I do not know who this man is. I imply he could possibly be strolling down the road, I would not know a factor. Sorry to this man”
Gray’s writers cannot be critical with this storyline. I am not a fan of Jo Wilson for a lot of causes; nonetheless, Alex would by no means abandon her, particularly after all the pieces they have been via.
Hyperlink: Alex goes via one thing together with his household that he’ll inform you about when he is prepared as a result of he is a superb man and he loves you. And also you simply bought married.
Jo: Yeah, and Amelia simply does this generally.
This disappearing act plot appears extra like a factor Jo Wilson would do than Alex. She was the one at all times eager to run and not sure of issues due to her previous whereas Alex consistently reassured her their future can be brighter and higher collectively.
I do not suppose there’s a manner for them to jot down Alex’s departure appropriately with out Justin Chambers. They’re going to give us this from Jo’s standpoint, which goes to be exhausting and boring. Sure, I am bored with the Jo “woe is me” centrics. This ought to be about Alex, not Jo.
Meaghan: I am in full settlement with LC with how they’re dealing with this case. Alex has been one of many core characters since day 1 of Gray’s, which says quite a bit on condition that he wasn’t even a personality after they initially shot the pilot. He deserves far more than he’s being given.
I get that they wish to be respectful to Jo’s character as a result of she is going to proceed as a personality on the present, however they’re doing an enormous disservice to Alex and the followers by making that their most important focus.
No matter it’s, I wish to know. I must know as a result of I might leap in entrance of a bear for you, Alex. Please name me.
Jo
They’ve time to repair Jo’s character in the event that they must break her a bit for this storyline. They do not have that luxurious with Alex. They might have simply used the loopy baby-napping storyline to create the ultimate rift between the 2 of them.
As an alternative, they’re making Alex the unhealthy man, and I am not pleased about this. I do not see a manner for them to save lots of this at this level.
Do you suppose DeLuca is battling psychological sickness? What are your ideas on this potential storyline and the way it was executed?
Berea: I feel it’s potential. It actually felt out of nowhere at first. However Carina’s breakdown of his current actions made it appear believable.
I’m no psychological well being subject professional, so I can’t say for certain if his actions had been as a consequence of gentle obsession coupled with lack of sleep or an precise manic state. If it’s the latter, I feel it could possibly be an fascinating story, and I hope it’s carried out justice.
Meredith, I got here to Seattle as a result of Andrew is similar age as out father when the signs began.
Carina
Becs: I do. When it was first disclosed that they might be exploring psychological sickness this season, I had puzzled if it was about Andrew. Given his household historical past, it made sense.
If carried out appropriately, it has the potential to be a strong storyline. I feel it was executed nicely. Psychological sickness can manifest over time and sometimes goes unnoticed till it reaches a breaking level. That’s precisely what occurred right here.
Carina defined the timeline to Meredith to offer her and the viewers with signs we might have missed. I’m wanting ahead to seeing how this performs out.
LC: This is my factor with Gray’s, they do these episodes the place they wish to concentrate on a selected subject, and when it is time, a majority of them both really feel rushed or disjointed — an afterthought.
It virtually seems like they’re checking off a listing to incorporate a PSA with out depth. An instance is Owen’s 5 minute immediate remedy repair; it simply wasn’t plausible.
I wish to have some hope that they’re going to do that correctly. To be plausible, Gray’s has to concentrate on the core solid, together with Carina. We’ve to see Andrew at his worst in and out of doors the hospital. It must be gritty, uncooked and emotional.
The hospital is lacking a therapist/psychologist in its combine. As an alternative of those weekly crossovers, add one other physician to sort out a few of these points commonly.
Meaghan: Most definitely, however it appears utterly out of the left-field for me. We’ve seen many medical doctors on this present act just like how DeLuca acted with this case. I imply significantly, Izzie reduce an LVAD to save lots of Denny’s life.
DeLuca hasn’t been sleeping. He has been residing this case because it began. It might make simply as a lot sense that his actions are a results of sleep deprivation, which is far more in step with the character we’ve come to know. As an alternative, the writers are going for shock worth as a substitute of life like.
DeLuca and Meredith are formally damaged up. React.
Berea: I feel that is it for them, and I’m not mad at it. I see each of their sides to this. Meredith was involved, and he or she was proper that DeLuca ought to have no less than communicated what he was doing earlier than administering medicine.
Nevertheless, as Jasmine acknowledged in her review, Meredith was being a hypocrite. So breaking the principles is simply okay when she does it? That’s unacceptable, and I wouldn’t wish to take care of her after that both.
I do not want this, and I do not want you, so we’re carried out. I am carried out.
DeLuca
However what’s additionally unacceptable is him yelling and performing out at her within the halls in entrance of everybody. She was attempting to speak to him quietly, and he simply began yelling in entrance of everybody.
The 2 of them are simply unable to navigate the ability dynamics of their relationship. I consider it might have been dealt with in another way on each ends if she wasn’t relationship him.
On one other word, I take pleasure in Hayes and his budding friendship with Meredith. I can’t but decide in the event that they plan on having him fill Alex’s place in her life as a good friend or DeLuca’s as a love curiosity.
Becs: Heartbroken. I felt for each side in that breakup. Andrew is clearly going via one thing he cannot management. Meredith clearly cares deeply, and he or she let that cloud her judgment.
You might see the instant remorse in Meredith when she in contrast him to his father, and you would see how a lot it damage Andrew. I do not suppose it is actually over.
As soon as this passes, and Andrew has somewhat extra readability, he’ll discover a solution to get her again. I additionally do not see Meredith giving up on him so simply.
LC: Yawns. They’re boring collectively. There’s nothing about their relationship that makes me root for them. DeLuca and Meredith by no means made any sense to me. It seems like How Stella Acquired Get Groove Again Gray’s Version.
It is totally a large number and silly. I may go on and on about how individuals are keen to simply accept this relationship regardless that Andrew was mourning his relationship with Sam solely to finish up with Meredith. However not keen to simply accept Jackson and Maggie as a result of he was married to April and divorced. However I digress.
Mer: When’s the final time you slept, Andrew?
DeLuca: What does that must do with something?
Mer: You’ll be able to’t assist anybody when you’re exhausted.
I discover it humorous, nonetheless, after they had been arguing Andrew factors out how a lot of a hypocrite Meredith may be, but he inspired her breaking the principles by going to jail for her. Humorous stuff.
Perhaps they’re meant to be. Two hypocrites in love. Love after Lock Up Medical Version. Oui?
Do not beat me up, Merluca followers. They’d one fireplace scene, although. The trapped within the elevator scene the place Andrew was talking Italian. Alexa, play It is Getting Scorching in Right here.
Meaghan: Lastly! I have never been a fan of this pairing since day one, and this break up was lengthy overdue. Like I’ve stated in a earlier roundtable, they’re at utterly completely different factors of their lives.
What’s humorous is when Gray’s started, we noticed a variety of these sorts of relationships bloom (Mer and Derek, Cristina and Burke, Callie and George, to call just a few), they usually all had been dealt with the place they made sense as {couples}. It’s a massive signal of how a lot the writing has declined since then that they cannot pull off the identical issues anymore.
I’m wanting ahead to seeing issues explored between Hayes and Mer. They’re a much more fascinating pairing.
Is Amelia overreacting and being unreasonable concerning the paternity take a look at and Hyperlink’s response? What are your ideas on their breakup?
Berea: Amelia shouldn’t be being truthful in any respect on this scenario. When she did this final time, hiding out in Stephanie’s condo from Owen, we may blame the love triangle. Right here, we can not. Now she is simply being unreasonable.
Hyperlink by no means stated he would cease loving Amelia if it’s Owen’s child. He – like every other fairly prudent red-blooded man – simply desires to know if that’s his child.
Whoever the daddy could also be, they’ve a proper to know, and it’s utterly egocentric of her to anticipate Hyperlink to only keep along with her and lift the newborn with out understanding who the organic father could also be.
And the breakup was simply ridiculous, additionally. She’s solely considering of herself and never how he’s feeling on this scenario. It’s such a regression that they went from the most effective, healthiest, happiest relationship this season, with nice communication, to this.
Becs: I can perceive the place Amelia’s head is at and might sympathize along with her. With that being stated, I consider Hyperlink deserves to know, and it was unfair to him. Poor Owen has no clue he is an element on this. For all events concerned, they should know whose youngster it’s as a result of it is not nearly Amelia.
I hope these two work issues out as a result of they’re actually good for one another. Perhaps this breakup will present them with the area wanted to grasp one another higher.
I am rising a complete human in my physique, and I wish to elevate him with somebody who’s going to like him it doesn’t matter what a blood take a look at says, and it seems they’re my sisters.
Amelia
LC: Amelia wants to sit down down with a therapist. I really feel like there may be a lot they will unload from her, however it’s troublesome to do due to the dimensions of the solid. And now, with the addition of those pointless crossovers within the combine, we do not get to see the core solid undergo the every day feels.
I really feel like she’s being barely unreasonable. Hyperlink thought they created a baby collectively and was dedicated to her and the newborn. However then he realized the newborn won’t be his, and it is like a ton of bricks was dropped on him. Then she instructed him that he does not get to know.
Come once more, Amelia? Sis, that is not truthful.
Though I detest a lot of the scripting this season, I do love that they’ve flipped what we noticed with Teddy and Tom final season (shout out to Tom Hive), the place Tom did not care about Teddy being pregnant with Owen’s child.
They will get again collectively. It is a traditional Gray’s plot right here. Love, child and messy strings being pulled, rocked, and reduce.
Meaghan: Amelia is being utterly unreasonable. This isn’t a traditional scenario, and Hyperlink is doing his greatest to navigate via it. Amelia must keep in mind that the connection they’ve, nicely had now, I suppose, is partially constructed on the truth that she bought pregnant together with his child.
That was an enormous consider how dedicated they grew to become to one another as rapidly as they did. So him presumably not being the daddy shatters the inspiration of their relationship. They should take it gradual and rebuild that. He’ll change into the daddy, so they’ll get again collectively however I am simply pissed off with Amelia whereas this occurs.
Do you will have any extra ideas that weren’t coated with the questions?
Berea: All season lengthy, I’ve been saying how we haven’t gotten any sisterhood moments. We lastly bought one between Amelia and Maggie (who’re arguably closest to one another than both is to Meredith)!
Nevertheless, I take subject with how lengthy it’s taken. All season lengthy, Maggie had been lowered to this Mammy archetype, taking good care of Meredith’s youngsters whereas she was locked up and taking good care of Amelia when she was going via her points.
Amelia: He is undecided if he desires to be with me if the newborn is not his, and that makes me undecided if I wish to be with him if the newborn is his.
Maggie: You and Owen have an advanced relationship.
Amelia: That is what he stated. However I would like him to like me sufficient that that does not matter. I like you greater than my organic sisters, biology does not matter. Love issues.
Hyperlink: And nonetheless if I had been Hyperlink I might be terrified. I might be terrified if the newborn is Owen’s.
However when Maggie was going via a tough time, nobody was there for her (besides Jackson).
Certain, Amelia says they tried to assist her, that Maggie needed to be left alone, and Maggie says that’s as a result of she’s an solely youngster and processes alone. I may settle for this if it had been carried out ON SCREEN.
As an alternative, we noticed Amelia snap “you set [DeLuca] in your service after he broke up with my sister,” however nonetheless labored fortunately with Jackson. We noticed Meredith inform Amelia she despatched Zola as much as Maggie with meals, and he or she’ll push when it’s time.
I simply discover it problematic for them to indicate Maggie doing all of the supportive sisterly issues on display, however any time Amelia and Meredith are supportive, it’s allegedly carried out off-screen. It’s an issue as a result of it makes it look like Maggie is simply there to help them with no reciprocation.
That stated, Amelia did handle this: “And I’m gonna be pushier subsequent time you’re unhappy since you had been raised an solely youngster, however you aren’t one anymore.” I’m so pleased she did, and I cherished the candy second between the 2 when Maggie comforted Amelia. This was the sisterly content material of which I had been wanting ahead.
Becs: Maggie! I simply wish to say she’s such a tremendous sister. Additionally, I am glad Jackson can lastly admit fault and apologize to Maggie. He handled her horribly, and that apology was undoubtedly wanted.
LC: Extra Maggie Pierce, please! She’s persistently there for the folks she loves and cares about. ALWAYS! Even when she was deep in her personal despair, she was giving Andrew relationship recommendation.
Sure, I used to be pleased to see her and Amelia lastly having a sister second after what appeared like an eternity of chilly shoulders from each Amelia and Meredith. I used to be starting to suppose an off-screen battle had occurred.
I like you. I bought you. I bought you. You are not going to be alone.
Maggie
Richard confirmed up for Maggie. Catherine and Maggie even had a second at Pac North. Even Jackson confirmed up for Maggie.
Gray’s dropped the ball on a Maggie and Zola second for what? A Jo scene being nosey and speaking about nothing. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME! I like sister moments; nonetheless, it is time for Maggie to maneuver out. I do not need her lowered to the black lady tending to infants and taking over everybody’s emotional points whereas they ignore hers.
Nico and Schmitt. Discover how forgettable they made this complete storyline? I am upset by how cliche this feels. Nico is persistently a jerk to Levi as a consequence of his personal insecurities. I would like them to interrupt up instantly.
If we’ve to endure a crossover relationship, the one that should completely occur is Levi and Travis Montgomery on Station 19. I am over the entire Nico getting used for intercourse with restricted dialogue.
Meaghan: I most likely am within the minority right here, as I actually am not a Maggie fan by any means. Nevertheless, I did love her scenes with Amelia.
I might have cherished to see Meredith be the one to interrupt Amelia out of her exile, however Maggie is the one different one that may. So for that, I am grateful for Maggie proper now. I am going to return to disliking her subsequent week.
What was your favourite second from the episode?
Berea: Keep in mind in Grey’s Anatomy Season 14 when Maggie instructed Jackson he was a grown man who by no means realized tips on how to apologize? Properly, it took two years, however FINALLY, Jackson realized to apologize!
This was simply my favourite second as a result of the second I noticed the promo for S19/Gray’s included a bear assault, my first thought was “Jackson higher apologize to Maggie; she was proper.”
For an solely youngster, you might be a superb sister.
Amelia
And he did: “I shouldn’t have left you alone within the woods… and I’ve owed you an apology that I’ve simply been too proud to provide. So I do apologize, Maggie…. Plus you had been proper; there have been bears.”
Sure, Jackson, she was proper! I really feel each vindicated and shocked as a result of I by no means thought this present day would come.
Becs: Actually? Andrew’s meltdown. It was laborious to look at however was carried out so nicely. Giacomo did such a tremendous job portraying a manic episode; he completely blew me away.
LC: Mr. Monopoly lastly got here to apologize. I did not suppose it might ever occur. Jackson being imply to Maggie all through the season as a result of his ego and delight saved him from really being free. Hashtag When Fake Freedom Is A Petty Infantile Jail.
Jackson got here to apologize in particular person like Maggie Pierce does not work on the identical hospital. Could not inform her the subsequent day? Oh… Insert Birdman hand rub right here.
Meaghan: Hayes lurking round being protecting over Meredith throughout DeLuca’s breakdown. This man already has drawn me in a lot in such a brief interval of superb.
Jasmine: I feel you imply, “time,” Meaghan, however I am retaining that Freudian slip as a result of he most definitely is ok. ;) LOL!
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