In the event you’re nonetheless coming down from the excessive that was Cobra Kai Season 3, then now we have a deal with for you!
We had an opportunity to speak with Vanessa Rubio, who performs Carmen on the Netflix collection. Carmen was entrance and heart, a driving drive behind Johnny’s change of coronary heart concerning his former adversary, Daniel Larusso.
Learn how Vanessa thinks Carmen held it collectively throughout Miguel’s restoration, how her relationship with Johnny may change Miguel’s relationship with each, and how one can preserve Vanessa in your view whereas we await Cobra Kai Season 4.
What’s it like being a part of a cult phenomenon, just like the Karate Child/Cobra Kai franchise?
It is wonderful. It is actually, actually wonderful. Generally it is like that scenario the place it’s important to be like, is that this actually occurring? But it surely’s been fantastic. The followers have been actually pretty, and the sentiments behind the present, the individuals who actually care about it, actually are genuine in these emotions, so it has been fantastic.
Have been you a fan of the Karate Child films earlier than you turned concerned?
I used to be, in fact. I grew up within the 80s. I used to be the youngest of three, so I used to be fairly younger when the flicks got here out. However due to my older siblings, notably my older brother, who was proper round the best age for the Karate Child, proper at that early-teen age, he was the one who was largely watching it.
I simply needed to be cool and sustain with the instances. I watched them as nicely, they usually’re positively part of how I grew up.
Does he suppose you are fairly cool now?
Yeah, I might hope so. [laughs]
Carmen has seen Johnny at arguably his worst greater than his finest, however she’s nonetheless drawn to him and appears to essentially learn him nicely. The place does that connection stem from?
Sure, proper. I feel it is simply actually written into the story. As an actor, I’ve to do justice to the writing and discover the reality behind that. I feel she’s deeply empathetic as a human, so she feels that.
However she additionally seems like together with her previous expertise with being betrayed and duped by Miguel’s father and having to go on the run and survive and actually name on her power of survival and wits to go to a brand new nation together with her household and discover footing.
I feel she is aware of how one can combat too. She is aware of the ups and downs of that, the lows that you simply go. I feel she’s capable of emphasize with that particularly with him.
What do you suppose made her put her coronary heart on the market and belief Johnny with it?
I feel a mixture of, I feel it surprises her as nicely. She’s a personality, I feel, who goes backwards and forwards between her robust emotions. She has very robust emotions, however then she does not need to present it.
She’s like, oh no, she does not need to be susceptible as a result of she’s additionally on this preventing to outlive stage, you understand? However I feel there inevitably comes a time whenever you go from surviving to thriving. I feel we see her rising into that.
Then additionally, her son is such a lovely forward-moving drive in our life who places her on relationship websites and stuff. She’s getting her groove. I feel the entire thing with Johnny is that he stepped in to essentially be a father determine for her son unexpectedly and tenaciously; he retains on.
He is all the time there, even perhaps when she does not need him to be. She has to provide in to that, too, to be susceptible sufficient to simply accept that assist and permit these emotions to develop.
Now that she and Johnny have these emotions, how do you suppose it should have an effect on Carmen’s relationship with Miguel after which Miguel’s relationship with Johnny?
Oh my gosh.
The relationships are fairly stable as they’re, and this new dynamic actually modified issues.
Yeah, positively. I may solely hope that he does not take it too unhealthy.
It looks as if he is a reasonably level-headed child who needs to see his mother pleased, but in addition with this sensei determine who he is given all of his belief to too. I can solely hope that he does not really feel betrayed and might come to see it as a great factor for each of them.
Out of your perspective, are you curious about seeing Carmen get extra into the fray with the karate-related storylines, or do you want enjoying on the outskirts and balancing the preventing and the rivalries with motherhood and different issues?
I actually belief the place the writers take this character, and yeah, if I sense one thing off or one thing, I might say so.
However when it comes to the karate stuff, I do not know, man; I might welcome it in the event that they introduced it. I feel seeing Carmen in a bodily highly effective function can be superior, however then I additionally suppose that her supporting Johnny and her son has actually been highly effective.
Her phrases prolong far past, I feel, than even her character realizes. She’s the one individual Johnny actually listens to, so she has loads of energy there too.
I am questioning, how tough was it going via Miguel’s harm and paralysis storyline? How do you suppose that Carmen stayed so robust all through?
Nicely, I feel that is outdoors of this story that I actually took fairly to coronary heart. I did not need to gloss over it as a result of I feel that is a part of the human expertise.
We love deeply, and we grieve deeply, and we undergo difficulties in a deep method as a result of we love a lot. I did not need to shrink back from that. I simply needed to be true to that and present that there are penalties to those issues, proper?
There are penalties to violence and senselessness that basically, I feel, may unite us perhaps to be higher in the direction of each other. I feel for her character, she simply needed to take it one step at a time and deal with the enterprise at hand, particularly at first of season three.
Then on the finish of season three, she has extra means to discover her emotions, and he or she has a bit extra grounding, I feel.
You talked about how Carmen needed to uproot all the pieces to get out of the way in which of Miguel’s father. Now that she’s not hiding from something anymore, is there an opportunity that his father may present up in season 4? What are your ideas on that?
Oh, goodness. I do not know. I actually do not. But when he did, we simply should see, take it from there, and see what occurs.
What’s your all-time favourite scene that you simply filmed on the present so forth?
Oh, man. What’s my favourite scene? I feel most likely the scene on the sofa in season three, speaking to Johnny’s character when Carmen tells him to combat.
That scene simply got here collectively actually in a pleasant method. I feel it is simply well-written and simply the outcome was very nice in the way it performed with the larger story.
Folks had been like, “Oh, is little Mr. Miyagi in there?” I am like, “Yeah, there’s.” Wow. I am additionally blown away by that.
Proper. With the season finale, all people’s getting nearer to one another, and on the identical web page, those that we as soon as thought had been by no means going to be on the identical web page.
Do you suppose that Carmen and Amanda can formally type a help group for Daniel and Johnny’s infantile habits?
I may solely hope so. Yeah. Jeez, it is like someone must be level-headed right here. Yeah, simply the chemistry between Daniel’s character and Johnny’s character, it is virtually like reaching this sibling stage.
It is hilarious. I really like watching it, however yeah, I hope that Carmen and Amanda get nearer and work collectively extra simply sooner or later for positive.
I feel a few of my favourite scenes this season had been every time the 4 of them wound up in the identical location. Like at that restaurant the place they had been sitting collectively with out actually sitting collectively. The entire dynamic between the 4 characters is so enjoyable.
So enjoyable as a result of it’s extremely adult-like too, the place you count on like, “Oh, now we’re adults.” However no, they don’t seem to be over that rivalry, after which it’s important to cope with that awkwardness. Yeah. That scene was loads of enjoyable, to each movie and watch.
After all, the transfer to Netflix actually helped. Individuals who hadn’t seen it earlier than, for no matter cause, actually jumped on the bandwagon, and it is taken on a lifetime of its personal.
It was one factor with the primary two seasons, however now that the third season has hit, it is on a wholly totally different stage. What are your ideas on the long run, and what actually excites you about this franchise’s potential?
Yeah, it has been actually pretty seeing its transformation and development. Actually it has as a result of it takes on a brand new stage every season, and it is actually a testomony, I feel, to the entire solid and crew.
We adore it simply as a lot because the viewers does, and the creators, they’re the largest followers. Josh, Jon, and Hayden; they’re like mega followers.
They know all the little theories on-line. They know all the backstories, all the films. I feel they’re actually a giant cause why it has been so profitable as a result of they ship it as followers who care about it a lot would.
They do not destroy it. They’ve enjoyable with it, and I feel they’ve given it a very new life in a very nice method.
In the event you had to decide on between Miyagi-Do or Cobra Kai, which one would you select?
what? Miyagi-Do for positive. Me Vanessa, Miyagi-Do all the way in which. Cobra Kai, sadly, has the higher logos and the higher look. They give the impression of being a lot cooler, however you bought to look under the floor.
They’re slick.
Yeah.
They’re so slick.
They’re actually slick. However I am the kind of individual that appears under the floor. I do know Miyagi-Do is the place I am at. [chuckles]
Has being part of the collection piqued your curiosity in martial arts in any respect? Have you ever tried it?
Oh, completely. I took it with my siblings as a younger child, so way back that I can not actually think about myself like, “Oh, I am a martial artist.” I actually cannot say that I do.
I feel it builds good coordination and stability in me, and I actually used to like the formation dances I used to do. Yeah, it is piqued one other curiosity in me for positive.
Perhaps we may count on to see you on the market within the yard, perhaps when all people’s getting their groove on.
Yeah. Completely, completely. That is the way in which to Johnny’s coronary heart, too, so win-win.
Win-win, certainly. You have all the time been comparatively busy. You have got loads of tasks below your belt.
Yeah.
Being on this and having this renewed curiosity, has it opened any doorways, and what else do you’ve gotten occurring proper now?
For positive. I did a collection with Dolly Parton on Netflix for her anthology collection. I am within the episode the place it is a Western. It is referred to as JJ Sneed, based mostly on her tune referred to as JJ Sneed, and that was wonderful.
Simply Dolly Parton herself is like, I by no means, by no means dreamed I might ever get to satisfy Dolly Parton, not to mention work on considered one of her productions. That was a dream come true.
Bonding, which can be on Netflix. Season two is popping out, and I’ve bought a couple of episodes in that. It comes out on January 27th.
That was additionally very nice and candy and a terrific tighter, smaller manufacturing to work on. That positively had loads of coronary heart and witty script concerned. Additionally, we filmed it in New York proper earlier than lockdown, like January 2020.
Wow.
I do know, I do know. I used to be like, “Oh my God.” We did not notice how fortunate we had it, you understand?
The earlier than and after.
Yeah. I am actually trying ahead to seeing how that turned out.
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